11.03.2026

Sharing Some Bizarre Love Theories

Guest Post by Oliver Wang


Back in 2011, Angry Asian Man was celebrating its 10th anniversary, and Patrick "DJ Phatrick" Huang and I had been asked by Phil and his wife to DJ the party. It was a packed event, filled mostly with people like ourselves: Asian American Gen Xers and older Millennials. Naturally, at some point, Phatrick and I turned to each other and asked, "So when are we going to play 'Bizarre Love Triangle'?"

Odds are, as you're reading this on Angry Asian Man, you're already in on the joke but just in case: for many Asian Americans who came of age in the 1980s and 1990s, New Order's 1986 synth-pop classic "Bizarre Love Triangle" (BLT) serves as an unofficial Asian American anthem. (Note: it's the 12" remix by Shep Pettibone that's the anthem, not the original LP mix.) In fact, back in 1995, not even a decade after the single's release, music writer Ben Kim told the Chicago Reader, "There's a cliché that the Asian American youth anthem is 'Bizarre Love Triangle.'"

Over the years, writers have offered different explanations for BLT's enduring popularity. Despite different explanations, the core conclusion remains the same: somehow, four white musicians from Manchester, England created one of the most enduring touchstones in Asian American musical memory.

In 2023, I had an opportunity to revisit this phenomenon for a paper I presented at that year's Pop Conference. As others had already written thoughtfully about BLT, I figured my contribution as a sociology professor would be to collect some data on how/why BLT rose to such beloved prominence in the community. Phil graciously allowed me to recruit respondents through this site, and the survey ultimately drew more than 1,200 responses.

Most respondents ended up being Asian American Gen Xers and older Millennials who grew up in the United States. The largest ethnic groups represented were Chinese, Filipina/o, Korean, and Taiwanese respondents, though more than a dozen Asian ethnic backgrounds appeared in the data. The sample was also unusually educated, with almost everyone indicating they completed at least a four-year college degree.

Recently, I finally found the time to begin writing up a proper academic article on this research. But since the single turns 40 years old this week, I thought I'd share a few of the most interesting takeaways from the project with you all:

Roughly 1/3rd of respondents agreed that they thought of BLT as an Asian American anthem, another third thought it was popular among Asian Americans but not necessarily as an anthem, and a third didn't think of the song in an Asian American context. This is a reminder that Asian Americans are far from monolithic, not least of which is around their cultural tastes, but nonetheless, a sizable plurality of the community does think of BLT as occupying a special, vaunted status. I describe those folks as "Anthemers."

They share some general demographic similarities. As anticipated, Anthemers were overwhelmingly made up of Gen Xers and older millennials who first encountered BLT as adolescents. Taiwanese and Korean American respondents were the most likely to be Anthemers; Japanese and South Asian Americans were among the least likely to be. In terms of where people grew up, there was a stronger association between Anthemers and states like Illinois, New Jersey and Massachusetts compared to California (I suspect this is because the massive size and diversity of California's Asian American population creates a greater mix of opinions regarding the song's importance, thereby "diluting" the Anthemer presence in Cali).

However, in the end, the greatest indicators about whether or not someone was an Anthemer wasn't about ethnicity, gender, or geography: it was about the social dimensions behind how they encountered the song itself. We asked all survey-takers how they were introduced to BLT. Here's the top responses:

Introduction Source% of Anthemers
Friends 65.0%
Radio 27.9%
Family members 24.9%
Clubs/raves 15.4%
High School / College Parties 14.1%
Record / Music Stores 8.5%
Music Videos 5.3%
Camp / Youth Programs 3.4%
Other (residual) 2.5%

What emerges from the data is that there are two primary pathways in which people were introduced to BLT: social pathways (friends, family, parties, youth camps) and media ones (radio, music videos, record stores). And overwhelmingly, if a social pathway led you to BLT, you were far more likely to be an Anthemer vs. discovering it via a media pathway, which tends to be more solitary.

What this suggests is that Anthemers associate the song as an Asian American anthem because BLT was present at various points in their life when they were spending time with other Asian Americans be it summer camps in East Texas, church parties in North Virginia, sorority events at Rutgers, or, if you were like, in a friend's car, careening down the 110, everyone inside yelling, "everytime I see you falling, I get down on my knees and pray." In other words, Anthemers became Anthemers because BLT weaved its way into frequent and recurrent moments where Asian Americans gathered, partied, danced, and ultimately, came to see themselves as part of the same community.

In fact, part of the survey also asked respondents to offer their own explanation as to BLT's symbolic importance to Asian Americans. It was fascinating to comb through those as some people pointed to the music itself, praising the song's synth-pop sound, danceability, and overall popularity in the New Wave scene. Others focused on Bernard Sumner's lyrics and themes of longing, uncertainty, and not quite fitting in; all very relatable Asian American feelings.

One respondent — it turned out to be my wife! — memorably described BLT as sounding like "a lonely robot longing for love," while someone else suggested the song felt "angsty yet upbeat, outsider-y yet safe, Western yet not American." (In my formal article, I also include some musicological analysis from a Filipino American musician in the Midwest who explains how BLT's chord progressions and harmonic structure may contribute to its appeal among Asian Americans.)

But overwhelmingly, what came up most often were memories of where and how people heard BLT: at house parties, school dances, weddings, summer camps, college mixers, and conferences. Again and again, respondents described the same scene: the song starts, people recognize it instantly, and suddenly the parquet is packed.

One respondent remembered that BLT was simply "passed from kid to kid, older sibling to younger sibling." Another recalled "the immediate collective gasp and dash to the dance floor" that occurred whenever the opening notes kicked in. Respondents may have had different ideas of why BLT became an anthem but they were far more consistent about what happened whenever it played. The power of BLT, for whatever reason, is how the song connects us with others like us: the moment of recognition of the song is also a moment of recognition of who we are relative to each other. That's what an anthem does: it's a sonic marker of identity and allegiance in which, even for the briefest of moments, we look across a room as the synths hit, and think simultaneously: "hey, this is our song."

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When DJ Phatrick and I finally decided to drop BLT in the middle of the Angry Asian Man anniversary party, not only did cheers and screams immediately ring out within two bars of the song opening but before Bernard Sumner's voice entered the room, I'm fairly certain a circle of dancers formed. I hypothesize that no song in the history of humanity has been more effective at inspiring Asian American circle-dancing than "Bizarre Love Triangle"... but that's a data collection project for another time.


Thanks to Phil Yu for allowing me to post the original 2023 survey here and thanks to all folks who took the survey. If you'd like to receive a copy of the final version, let me know here.

Oliver Wang is a professor of sociology at CSU-Long Beach and a regular writer on music, arts and culture. He and Patrick Huang are currently developing a new podcast on the songs of Asian America.


They Call Us The Moons of LA

Jeff Yang and Phil Yu present an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.


What's up, podcast listeners? We've got another episode of our podcast They Call Us Bruce. (Almost) each week, my good friend, writer/columnist Jeff Yang and I host an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America, with a strong focus on media, entertainment and popular culture.

In this episode, we welcome actor/producers Ken Jeong and Daniel Dae Kim, and writer Paul Bae, key creatives behind the Audible Orignal series The Moons of LA. They talk about the project's journey from television comedy pilot to coming-of-age dramedy audio series; assembling an all-star cast that includes Randall Park, Jimmy O. Yang, John Cho, Sherry Cola, and Liza Soberano; mining the personal to tell a Korean American story about family, relationships and mental health; and why a certain synth pop anthem absolutely had to make it into the show for authenticity's sake.

11.01.2026

REWIND: They Call Us Eric Bauza

Jeff Yang and Phil Yu present an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.


What's up, podcast listeners? We've got another episode of our podcast They Call Us Bruce. (Almost) each week, my good friend, writer/columnist Jeff Yang and I host an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America, with a strong focus on media, entertainment and popular culture.

In this episode, we revisit our conversation with celebrated voice actor Eric Bauza -- the iconic voice of Bugs Bunny, among many other characters -- who recently passed away at 46. Recorded in December 2020, we discussed issues of diversity and inclusion in voice acting, cracking the code of a good impression, and how a Filipino kid from Canada ended up as the voice of animation's most wascally wabbit. Rest in peace, Eric Bauza.

10.21.2026

They Call Us Dang!

Jeff Yang and Phil Yu present an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.


What's up, podcast listeners? We've got another episode of our podcast They Call Us Bruce. (Almost) each week, my good friend, writer/columnist Jeff Yang and I host an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America, with a strong focus on media, entertainment and popular culture.

In this episode, we welcome Andrew Law, creator, co-showrunner and co-star of the Netflix animated sitcom Dang! He talks about the show's evolution from a live-action comedy to animation; telling culturally specific stories about sibling dynamics (despite being an only child) and flawed, messy Asian American characters; sussing out possible Asian fetishes; and weirdly horny church worship songs (that are also total bangers). Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Dang!

9.18.2026

They Call Us Preparing for the Inevitable

Jeff Yang and Phil Yu present an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.


What's up, podcast listeners? We've got another episode of our podcast They Call Us Bruce. (Almost) each week, my good friend, writer/columnist Jeff Yang and I host an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America, with a strong focus on media, entertainment and popular culture.

In this episode, we welcome our old friends George Kiriyama and Traci Kato-Kiriyama, siblings who recently lost their mother, Ikuko Kiriyama, to talk about remembrance, grief (or pre-grief), and letting go. They share personal stories of the Kiriyama family's journey with loss; the role of caregiving and supporting aging parents; the lessons learned from honoring a loved one's legacy; and the emotional process of letting go and moving forward.

8.19.2026

Christian Metal Band Sues Netflix Over Kpop Demon Hunters

And Other Items of Note From Angry Asian America.


Christian Metal Band Demon Hunter Sues Netflix Over 'KPop Demon Hunters'

The Christian metal band Demon Hunters is suing Netflix and AEG Presents over the mega-hit animated film KPop Demon Hunters, for trademark infringement and unfair competition, among other claims. The lawsuit claims that the movie has caused “a substantial likelihood of confusion” and resulted in an “existential crisis” for the band, which holds the "Demon Hunter" trademark in several categories.

"In the lawsuit the band have provided some examples of confusion that already occurred, including an email they received in February from a man asking for a refund after he spent $500 on tickets to their gig for his 5 and 6 year-old daughters in the belief he was buying tickets to see the fictional girl band."

I'm sorry, but mistakenly dropping five hundred bucks on Christian metal band tickets, thinking you're getting Kpop Demon Hunters tickets, is a level of carelessness and laziness that defies trademark infringement.




Calif. Bill Could Create Designation for Asian-Serving Colleges

A bill moving through the California State Assembly would create a new designation for colleges in the state that serve large numbers of Asian American, Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander students. Although the bill itself doesn't allocate any money to those institutions, advocates hope that they could eventually use the designation to access funding for initiatives that improve college access, retention and completion.




Aoife Hinds & Billy Howle To Lead BBC And A24 Series 'The Ministry Of Time'

Aoife Hinds will star in BBC and A24's drama series The Ministry of Time, based on the best-selling debut novel by Kaliane Bradley. The series is set around a newly established government department that gathers 'expats' from across history to test the viability of time-travel. Hinds plays Sophy, who achieves a hard-fought promotion in the civil service, only to learn that her role is to help a time traveller -- Victorian polar explorer Commander Gore -- acclimatize to the modern world as part of a top-secret Ministry program. The Ministiry of Time is currently filming in London.




LEENALCHI: Live on KCRW

I absolutely love this band. Seoul-based LEENALCHI brings their undefinable pansori-infused traditional Korean vocal styling and rhythmic pop rock funk sound in-studio for a Live on KCRW session.




Dallas Asian American Film Festival

Dallas film fans! You are invited to the inaugural Dallas Asian American Film Festival, a hyperlocal film festival showcasing Asian American film with an Asian Texan focus, presented by the Dallas Asian American Art Collective. It's happening August 28-29 in the Dallas Arts District. For information and tickets, visit daaart.org/daaff.


8.18.2026

Maitreyi Ramakrishnan's Bollywood Dance Team Battles to Be the 'Best of the Best'

And Other Items of Note From Angry Asian America.


Check out the trailer for the upcoming Netflix comedy Best of the Best, set in the cutthroat world of Bollywood fusion collegiate dance. Maitreyi Ramakrishnan and Priyanka Kedia star as childhood best friends, Maya and Anjali, who join UCLA's competitive Bollywood-fusion dance team, only to discover that the road to winning the U.S. Championship is far more raucous and cutthroat than they ever imagined. Think Pitch Perfect by way of Bollywood. Best of the Best, directed by Lena Khan, hits Netflix on September 18.

By the way, this movie should not be confused with one of my favorite movies, the 1989 martial arts drama Best of the Best, starring Phillip Rhee, Eric Roberts and James Earl Jones. However, may I suggest that these two identically titled Best of the Best movies are part of a shared cinemamatic universe? Why not. Unless someone else convinces me otherwise, I'm sticking with that.




This Bay Area city became a Filipino American haven. Now many can’t afford to stay

Daly City, CA is sometimes called the "Pinoy capital" of the Bay Area and even the United States. For decades, the city of about 100,000 has been home to the highest concentration of Filipinos of any American city. But the rising cost of housing, decentralization of certain jobs and changing economic opportunities have been driving forces behind a recent mass exodus of Filipino residents from the historic enclave.




Chang-rae Lee on Channeling His Immigrant Childhood Into Fiction

"All immigrant children know how complicated this 'new world' is, and that no matter how much their parents may try to ride herd, they are essentially traversing this realm solo. It's a journeying full of excitement and fright, and laden with a startlingly heavy burden of responsibility, given that they are often the ones necessarily leading the way. I certainly felt so, wanting to do the right thing by us all but never knowing if we were heading in a good direction or towards some maelstrom."




Marvel Artist Archive: Jim Lee

For your crowdfund consideration: Marvel Artist Archive: Jim Lee, an officially licensed hardcover art book showcasing superstar artist Jim Lee's iconic artwork for Marvel Comics, currently wrapping up its Kickstarter campaign. For me, Jim Lee is the greatest of all time, and his work for Marvel is foundational. I might have to get this.




Mayor Mamdani Wears a Bike Helmet. Finally.

While New Yorkers have delighted in spotting Mayor Zohran Mamdani riding around the city on a bicycle, some safety advocates have scolded him for his failure to use a helmet. It seems that he has listened. On Tuesday, the mayor posted a video on social media, showing him viewing comments on his phone about his not wearing a helmet. Then, he unboxed one at City Hall and fit it on his head. "Safety first, New York," he said. "See you out there."


8.17.2026

Asian AF & Outside In Theatre Present: AF Comedy Festival

September 3-6 at Outside In Theatre in Los Angeles


Los Angeles, call your friends and make some plans for a good-ass time. Asian AF and Outside In Theatre present the AF Comedy Festival, celebrating 10 years of the hit comedy show Asian AF with over 200 AAPI performers coming from all over the country.

The kickass lineup includes the likes of Margaret Cho, Joel Kim Booster, Amy Hill, Asif Ali, Aparna Nancherla, Raymond Lee, Tim Chantarangsu, Andrew Law, Andrew Lopez, Zac Oyama, Saagar Shaikh, Vincent Rodriguez III, and dozens more across three nights of shows.

It's happening September 3-6 at the Outside In Theatre in Los Angeles. If you didn't blow all your money on BTS that weekend, this is where you should go! For more information and tickets, visit afcomedyfest.com.


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